Re: [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer

From: Peter Larsen <peter.larsen_at_larsendata.dk>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 04:31:18 -0800

I’ll pass on that challenge, i’ll eat a carolina reaper any day.


> On Feb 2, 2016, at 4:28 AM, Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk> wrote:
>
> We completely agree, now you just have to convince DK-Hostmaster :)
>
> // Tom
>
> From: Peter Larsen [mailto:peter.larsen_at_larsendata.dk <mailto:peter.larsen_at_larsendata.dk>]
> Sent: 2. februar 2016 13:24
> To: EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk>
> Cc: Andreas Schraut-Petto <apetto_at_key-systems.net <mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net>>; Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>>
> Subject: Re: [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer
>
> we have for many years done delegation with the primary
>
> i have requested for even more years, that the primary was noted as “owner”/“master” of the delegation
>
> but heck, we have a master in soa, if it matches one of the nameservers, and is on all, name it master and you have one client that is master
>
> it would solve it 98% with the multiple clients
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:12 AM, Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>> wrote:
>
> Well, the main reason is obviously that a domain can have multiple nameservers, from different clID (clients)
>
> --
> Tom Sommer
> Zitcom A/S
>
> Phone: +45 69 10 60 09
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Schraut-Petto [mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net <mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net>]
> Sent: 2. februar 2016 09:45
> To: Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>>; EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk>
> Subject: Re: [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer
>
> Signed PGP part
> Hi Tom,
>
>
> in fact, that's the same situation for .com.br <http://com.br/> - that's also a sole
> registry. But they have at least a unique clid in the domain:info
> response...
>
> I simply can't understand why it's not possible for the registry to
> serve the registrars which such a simple feature...
>
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas
>
> Am 02.02.2016 um 09:13 schrieb Tom Sommer:
> > Hi Andreas
> >
> > .dk is a sole-registry, and many of the features you are referring
> > to are not possible in a sole-registry. We, as simple
> > "nameserver-providers", sadly have no authority over the domains
> > which we supply DNS for.
> >
> > That said, I think everyone in the community agrees with you on all
> > counts. We have all been pushing and begging for these features for
> > years (!).
> >
> > I don't think anything will change unless DK-Hostmaster is
> > replaced. They won't argue the case for a shared-registry for us,
> > and that's not really their fault. It's in their DNA. We just need
> > new DNA.
> >
> > -- Tom Sommer UnoEuro A/S
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Schraut-Petto
> > [mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net <mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net>] Sent: 2. februar 2016 08:35 To:
> > EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk> Cc: DanDomain A/S Hostmaster
> > <hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>> Subject: Re: [EPP-discuss] missing
> > domain:transfer
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> >
> > this is a question to all registrars.
> >
> > In my opinion, the current EPP implementaion of DK-Hostmaster is a
> > mess! Important functions are missing.
> >
> > For example domain:info command. That command works for every
> > domain, if it belongs to the registrar or not. BUT there is no
> > unique registrar identifier (eq clid; currently it's always the
> > registrant). Only with domain:info command, we never know if the
> > domain is really under our management!
> >
> > Hostmaster-DK should either add a unique clid or respond with an
> > authorization error.
> >
> >
> > Further, I haven't found any functionality to set the registrant
> > as billing contact. And a function to set the registrar as billing
> > contact is also missing. (related to
> > https://github.com/DK-Hostmaster/epp-service-specification <https://github.com/DK-Hostmaster/epp-service-specification>)
> >
> >
> > What do you think about that? What do you miss in the EPP API?
> >
> > Many thanks and best regards, Andreas
> >
> > Btw., the switch to the new Self-Service is also a desaster!
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 31.01.2016 um 22:56 schrieb Peter Larsen:
> >> it’s reinstated:
> >
> >> http://new.czar.dk/2016/01/31/reinstatement-of-blind-delegation-in-11th-hour/ <http://new.czar.dk/2016/01/31/reinstatement-of-blind-delegation-in-11th-hour/>
> >
> >> so, it will still work… and i have received 3-4 tests this
> >> evening…
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 12:15 PM, DanDomain A/S Hostmaster
> >>> <hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk> <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Cheers Tom, thanks for the reply. I was basically just hoping
> >>> I missed an email with the notifications of the alternative
> >>> API command (and sandbox details) together with the change
> >>> notification of system critical updates.
> >>>
> >>> I can now just rest assured that the message is sent out by
> >>> mistake and that a correction email will be sent some time
> >>> tomorrow. Thanks again.
> >>>
> >>> PS: domain:update or domain:transfer is all the same for me in
> >>> this context, as long as it's available :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Med venlig hilsen
> >>>
> >>> *Dennis Mathiesen* Product Manager - Domain/Webhosting
> >>>
> >>> http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/dandomainlogo.jpg <http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/dandomainlogo.jpg>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> *T:*
> >>> 87 77 90 45 *E:* dm_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk> <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk>> *W:*
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >>> dandomain.dk <http://dandomain.dk/> <http://www.dandomain.dk/ <http://www.dandomain.dk/>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/viskaberenkelhed.jpg <http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/viskaberenkelhed.jpg>
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> >>> *Fra:* Tom Sommer [mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>] *Sendt:* 31. januar
> >>> 2016 11:46 *Til:* DanDomain A/S Hostmaster *Cc:*
> >>> EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk>
> >>> <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk>> *Emne:* Re:
> >>> [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer
> >>>
> >>> I'm reserving the screaming and yelling for tomorrow. But if
> >>> this is true, and there are no API for us, then DK-hostmaster
> >>> has once again proven how disconnected they are from
> >>> registrars. And obviously this is not something we can go
> >>> unanswered as a community.
> >>>
> >>> Ps: domain:transfer is for changing registrars, something that
> >>> cannot be done in a sole registry. So what you/we are looking
> >>> for is a way to request a domain:update of the name servers.
> >>>
> >>> -- Tom Sommer (via iPhone) UnoEuro A/S
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 30. jan. 2016, at 00.25, DanDomain A/S Hostmaster
> >>> <hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk> <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Considering the latest specifics on the SB4 that apparantly
> >>> just arrived, more the part covering the removal of anon
> >>> redelegation, that seems to be the reason for the exceptional
> >>> long maintenance this weekend, I was wondering if I was the
> >>> only one on this list who is trying to get a hold of the
> >>> release list of the EPP stating availability for a
> >>> domain:transfer command to take over for the recently announced
> >>> removal of the anonymous "redelegation" functionality ? Does
> >>> anyone have a fix for this ?
> >>>
> >>> In addition to this, has anyone received the notice for system
> >>> critical changes according to the mininmum SLA of 3 months,
> >>> that is required for such changes where it states the anon
> >>> redel will be removed and not just a maintenance? I'm afraid
> >>> I'm missing these emails. (
> >>> https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/teknisk-administration/noter-om-teknik/udrulningstider/ <https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/teknisk-administration/noter-om-teknik/udrulningstider/>
> >>>
> >>>
> )
> >>>
> >>> ref.:
> >>> https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/udmeldinger-over-tid/aktuelt/artikel/aendring-af-annonceret-servicevindue/ <https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/udmeldinger-over-tid/aktuelt/artikel/aendring-af-annonceret-servicevindue/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> Med venlig hilsen
> >>>
> >>> *Dennis Mathiesen* Product Manager - Domain/Webhosting
> >>>
> >>> http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/dandomainlogo.jpg <http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/dandomainlogo.jpg>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> *T:*
> >>> 87 77 90 45 *E:* dm_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk> <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk>> *W:*
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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> >>>
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