RE: [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer

From: Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 13:12:03 +0000

The "sponsoring client" is determined by the nameserver in .dk (Sole-registry again), and you can have multiple nameservers, from different clients.

As how things work now, clID should always be DK-hostmaster itself.

--
Tom Sommer
Zitcom A/S

Phone: +45 69 10 60 09



-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Schraut-Petto [mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net]
Sent: 2. februar 2016 14:00
To: Peter Larsen <peter.larsen_at_larsendata.dk>; EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk
Cc: Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk>
Subject: Re: [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer

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Peter, good luck with that ;-)

But to come back to the clID issue. Just to quote the RFC:

"
A <domain:clID> element that contains the identifier of the
      sponsoring client.
"

Thats the same value that is used in the login-Command to log in to
the EPP Service. That has absolutly nothing to do with nameserver?!


Best regards,
Andreas



Am 02.02.2016 um 13:31 schrieb Peter Larsen:
> I’ll pass on that challenge, i’ll eat a carolina reaper any day.
>
>
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 4:28 AM, Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk
>> <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>> wrote:
>>
>> We completely agree, now you just have to convince DK-Hostmaster
>> :)
>>
>> // Tom
>>
>> *From:* Peter Larsen [mailto:peter.larsen_at_larsendata.dk] *Sent:*
>> 2. februar 2016 13:24 *To:* EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk
>> <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk> *Cc:* Andreas
>> Schraut-Petto <apetto_at_key-systems.net
>> <mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net>>; Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk
>> <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>> *Subject:* Re: [EPP-discuss] missing
>> domain:transfer
>>
>> we have for many years done delegation with the primary
>>
>> i have requested for even more years, that the primary was noted
>> as “owner”/“master” of the delegation
>>
>> but heck, we have a master in soa, if it matches one of the
>> nameservers, and is on all, name it master and you have one
>> client that is master
>>
>> it would solve it 98% with the multiple clients
>>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:12 AM, Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk
>> <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>> wrote:
>>
>> Well, the main reason is obviously that a domain can have
>> multiple nameservers, from different clID (clients)
>>
>> -- Tom Sommer Zitcom A/S
>>
>> Phone: +45 69 10 60 09
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Schraut-Petto
>> [mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net] Sent: 2. februar 2016 09:45 To:
>> Tom Sommer <ts_at_zitcom.dk <mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk>>;
>> EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk
>> <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk> Subject: Re:
>> [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer
>>
>> Signed PGP part Hi Tom,
>>
>>
>> in fact, that's the same situation for .com.br <http://com.br/>
>> - that's also a sole registry. But they have at least a unique
>> clid in the domain:info response...
>>
>> I simply can't understand why it's not possible for the registry
>> to serve the registrars which such a simple feature...
>>
>>
>> Best regards, Andreas
>>
>> Am 02.02.2016 um 09:13 schrieb Tom Sommer:
>>> Hi Andreas
>>>
>>> .dk is a sole-registry, and many of the features you are
>>> referring to are not possible in a sole-registry. We, as
>>> simple "nameserver-providers", sadly have no authority over the
>>> domains which we supply DNS for.
>>>
>>> That said, I think everyone in the community agrees with you on
>>> all counts. We have all been pushing and begging for these
>>> features for years (!).
>>>
>>> I don't think anything will change unless DK-Hostmaster is
>>> replaced. They won't argue the case for a shared-registry for
>>> us, and that's not really their fault. It's in their DNA. We
>>> just need new DNA.
>>>
>>> -- Tom Sommer UnoEuro A/S
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Schraut-Petto
>>> [mailto:apetto_at_key-systems.net] Sent: 2. februar 2016 08:35
>>> To: EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk
>> <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk> Cc: DanDomain A/S
>> Hostmaster
>>> <hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>>
>> Subject: Re: [EPP-discuss] missing
>>> domain:transfer
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>>
>>> this is a question to all registrars.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the current EPP implementaion of DK-Hostmaster
>>> is a mess! Important functions are missing.
>>>
>>> For example domain:info command. That command works for every
>>> domain, if it belongs to the registrar or not. BUT there is no
>>> unique registrar identifier (eq clid; currently it's always
>>> the registrant). Only with domain:info command, we never know
>>> if the domain is really under our management!
>>>
>>> Hostmaster-DK should either add a unique clid or respond with
>>> an authorization error.
>>>
>>>
>>> Further, I haven't found any functionality to set the
>>> registrant as billing contact. And a function to set the
>>> registrar as billing contact is also missing. (related to
>>> https://github.com/DK-Hostmaster/epp-service-specification)
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think about that? What do you miss in the EPP API?
>>>
>>> Many thanks and best regards, Andreas
>>>
>>> Btw., the switch to the new Self-Service is also a desaster!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 31.01.2016 um 22:56 schrieb Peter Larsen:
>>>> it’s reinstated:
>>>
>>>> http://new.czar.dk/2016/01/31/reinstatement-of-blind-delegation-in-11th-hour/
>>
>>>>
>
>>>> so, it will still work… and i have received 3-4 tests this
>>>> evening…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 12:15 PM, DanDomain A/S Hostmaster
>>>>> <hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk
>> <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>
>> <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers Tom, thanks for the reply. I was basically just
>>>>> hoping I missed an email with the notifications of the
>>>>> alternative API command (and sandbox details) together with
>>>>> the change notification of system critical updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can now just rest assured that the message is sent out
>>>>> by mistake and that a correction email will be sent some
>>>>> time tomorrow. Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: domain:update or domain:transfer is all the same for me
>>>>> in this context, as long as it's available :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Med venlig hilsen
>>>>>
>>>>> *Dennis Mathiesen* Product Manager - Domain/Webhosting
>>>>>
>>>>> http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/dandomainlogo.jpg
>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>> *T:*
>>>>> 87 77 90 45 *E:* dm_at_dandomain.dk
>> <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk> <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk> *W:*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> dandomain.dk <http://dandomain.dk/>
>>>>> <http://www.dandomain.dk/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/viskaberenkelhed.jpg
>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>> <http://www.dandomain.dk/profil.html?utm_source=mail&utm_medium=signatur&utm_campaign=viskaberenkelhed>
>>
>>
>>> *Fra:* Tom Sommer [mailto:ts_at_zitcom.dk] *Sendt:* 31. januar
>>>>> 2016 11:46 *Til:* DanDomain A/S Hostmaster *Cc:*
>>>>> EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk
>> <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk>
>>>>> <mailto:EPP-discuss_at_liste.dk-hostmaster.dk> *Emne:* Re:
>>>>> [EPP-discuss] missing domain:transfer
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm reserving the screaming and yelling for tomorrow. But
>>>>> if this is true, and there are no API for us, then
>>>>> DK-hostmaster has once again proven how disconnected they
>>>>> are from registrars. And obviously this is not something we
>>>>> can go unanswered as a community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps: domain:transfer is for changing registrars, something
>>>>> that cannot be done in a sole registry. So what you/we are
>>>>> looking for is a way to request a domain:update of the name
>>>>> servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Tom Sommer (via iPhone) UnoEuro A/S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30. jan. 2016, at 00.25, DanDomain A/S Hostmaster
>>>>> <hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk
>> <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>
>> <mailto:hostmaster_at_dandomain.dk>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the latest specifics on the SB4 that
>>>>> apparantly just arrived, more the part covering the removal
>>>>> of anon redelegation, that seems to be the reason for the
>>>>> exceptional long maintenance this weekend, I was wondering
>>>>> if I was the only one on this list who is trying to get a
>>>>> hold of the release list of the EPP stating availability
>>>>> for a domain:transfer command to take over for the recently
>>>>> announced removal of the anonymous "redelegation"
>>>>> functionality ? Does anyone have a fix for this ?
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to this, has anyone received the notice for
>>>>> system critical changes according to the mininmum SLA of 3
>>>>> months, that is required for such changes where it states
>>>>> the anon redel will be removed and not just a maintenance?
>>>>> I'm afraid I'm missing these emails. (
>>>>> https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/teknisk-administration/noter-om-teknik/udrulningstider/
>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>> )
>>>>>
>>>>> ref.:
>>>>> https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/udmeldinger-over-tid/aktuelt/artikel/aendring-af-annonceret-servicevindue/
>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Med venlig hilsen
>>>>>
>>>>> *Dennis Mathiesen* Product Manager - Domain/Webhosting
>>>>>
>>>>> http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/dandomainlogo.jpg
>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>> *T:*
>>>>> 87 77 90 45 *E:* dm_at_dandomain.dk
>> <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk> <mailto:dm_at_dandomain.dk> *W:*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> dandomain.dk <http://dandomain.dk/>
>>>>> <http://www.dandomain.dk/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://maillist2.dandomain.dk/Userfiles/d3b5ca10-20b8-4a37-9f89-80eb3efb0c0a/files/Signatur/viskaberenkelhed.jpg
>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>> <http://www.dandomain.dk/profil.html?utm_source=mail&utm_medium=signatur&utm_campaign=viskaberenkelhed>
>>
>>
>
>>>
>
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